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PASTOR'S REPORT, May 14, 1979
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it. And he said, "We don't want your advice, Mr. Helge. We just want
to tell you what the rumors are." Very revealing, isn't it?
We've put all the pieces together in the last six, seven, eight months.
We've done a lot of tracking of telephone calls. So�e of the people
calling one another, using college and Church phones to do it. Spending
Church money entertaining one another while they were conspiring. You
get into one of these things and it gets messy after a while. These
people thought they were going to just come out of this thing lilly
white and pure. They were going to smear Mr. Armstrong, smear Mr. Rader,
smear Mr. Helge. They were going to just come out lilly white. It
doesn't work that way. It just doesn't.
Mr. Chapman showed up at deposition the first day saying, "Oh, I don't
need a lawyer." He must have thought it was a little game that was going
to be played. And then they started asking some questions under oath.
All of a sudden, he couldn't answer, couldn't remember his name, practi­
cally. "Heard a rumor? I don't remember who I heard the rumor from. I
heard a rumor about that, but I don't remember." And on and on, and then
suddenly he realized he was in deep water and he asked for a lawyer.
This sa�e man never told Mr. Armstrong what he'd done, never told Mr.
Helge, never told me--signed an affidavit, continued to take Church funds.
That's the kind of situation that obtained, and it's about time we put it
all behind us. I don't see why people who have feelings of malevolence
toward the organization just don't leave. Can someone explain that to me?
Just leave! It'·
s not a prison. All they have to do is leave.
I'm not saying anybody here is of that mind, but I just know there have
been people who have not done the work of a servant; have certainly not
helped Mr. McNair, Mr. LaRavia, myself, Mr. Meredith, and Mr. Helge keep
this Work together under Mr. Armstrong during the last four months. I
don't understand why these people still stay here. They want Mr. Arm­
strong out? Is that it? Why don't they say so, and tell the rest of us
who don't Lwant Mr. Armstrong ou!/ why they should prevail?
Here's a letter. It's a letter to Mr. Armstrong from a person who's
attending classes in the sabbatical program. He says, "I could go on and
on about all the inferences and innuendos that they and ministers in a
certain area passed around. They've all inferred in one way or another
that their opinions are correct and the Apostle's are wrong. They say
that the Church would be better off without Mr. Rader--when he's gone our
problems will be solved. Also they say that, we may not be guilty of
all the charges, but we are guilty." I don't even know what that means.
Anyone of that opinion--that the Church would be better off when I'm
gone? Anyone here believe that, and if so, why? Nobody wants to comment.
Not a comment in here. These remarks are ascribed to a minister. "He
said that he knew that gold and art objects had disappeared and 'I know
so many things I can't tell you that you don't know about.'" Gold and
art objects had disappeared--incredible! Absolutely incredible.
With that kind of comment going on, Mr. Helge and I are no longer surprised
when a declared enemy, an open declared enemy of the Work, tells the
newspaper that he's wondering about the gold buillion. How can we hold
a declared enemy to a higher standard than we can hold our own ministry
or other people who profess to be members of the Church? Gold and art